An environmental attorney involved in a multi-year campaign to “bring down” energy companies suggested lawsuits targeting those companies over climate change may be more of a media strategy than a legitimate legal pursuit, according to a recently resurfaced video. The comments were made more than a year before several California municipalities and New York City filed lawsuits against fossil fuel producers seeking financial damages from global warming.

Richard Ayres is a lawyer who participated in the infamous 2012 conference in La Jolla, Calif., where activists developed their playbook for using litigation and the press to blame energy companies for global warming. Ayres made the remarks during a panel discussion in February 2016 hosted by the American Constitution Society, which uploaded the video to YouTube under the title “Combatting Climate Change in the Courts.”

Watch the video and read the full post on EIDClimate.org.