Fighting Back Against New York City, One More Time

Sandra Davis
Deposit, NY resident
We’ve had it with New York City’s domineering attitude and exploitation of landowners where I live in Deposit, New York. The city’s latest maneuver, which seems to be in league with the efforts of the Natural Resource Defense Council, takes the cake, however. Their proposed seven mile tunnel buffers are one of the most blatant land grabs we’ve seen since the city wiped out the little town of Cannonsville many decades ago. We’re, in the words of the movie Network, “mad as hell and not going to take it anymore.”
The city’s game was explained on these pages earlier, so I won’t reiterate but I will share with you what I wrote to State Senator Tom Libous:
Dear Senator Libous,
I am writing to you about a serious threat to our property rights, which is being made by the City of New York in apparent league with the Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC) and others who are trying to cut a deal that would make natural gas development all but impossible anywhere in Delaware County. More specifically, I am concerned about the taking of my own individual property rights!
My husband and I currently own 54.94 acres in Deposit, Delaware County, but we probably won’t own it for much longer if the taking of our rights continues on the path it is headed. Our property is outside of the watershed, outside the 4,000 feet setback proposed by the DEC, but within the seven mile infrastructure buffer being proposed by the City. The city’s proposal is excessive in the extreme. It is clearly being advanced simultaneously with a NRDC proposal to limit drilling to parts of the Southern Tier that are west of here and far away from the properties owned by prominent NRDC members who will no longer be able to acquire Catskill land on the cheap to swell the size of their private reserve. It is an unholy alliance of City with some of its wealthy residents who have vacation land in the Catskills and it threatens the livelihoods of hard-working ordinary landowners such as us who have to make a living here. This cannot be allowed to happen.
There is no science to indicate any contamination to the watershed would result from natural gas development on my property. It is not physically possible with mountain in between my property and the reservoir. The City attempts to justify its seven mile land grab on behalf of itself and the NRDC by saying two scientific studies indicate the shale is brittle and contaminants can travel up to seven miles. However, a review of the details in these studies indicates no such thing. Moreover, there is not a singled documented case of hydraulic fracturing polluting a water supply. It hasn’t happened. Lisa Jackson at the EPA and the New York State SGEIS both say as much. The City is grasping at straws in an attempt to grab land for itself and its NRDC friends. It is highway robbery!
Both the City and the NRDC (whose leadership controls the Open Space Institute, the Open Space Conservancy and the Catskill Mountainkeeper, and constitutes some of the world’s wealthiest people) are land hogs and New York State needs to get a grip on their takings and stop them. First, they took land to put the reservoir on our land, digging up the bodies of our loved ones from their final resting place in the process. Now, they want to take away our constitutional rights, too. Neither, New York City nor the NRDC will not get my rights for free! I have said this before and I will say it again – those mineral rights I possess are worth a minimum of $2.5 million, which is a conservative estimate of the economic return we would see from natural gas development on our property, The City proposal, carefully orchestrated with the simultaneous actions of NRDC and others to make the case for keeping gas activity well to the west of us would render 33,000 acres undevelopable at a cost to our communities of over $81 billion. This is the scope of the land grab. It must stop!
Please make these facts known and stand up for our rights!
Sandra Davis
Several of us in the Deposit area have decided to take on this challenge by making a petition to the New York State Legislature, believing in the old wisdom that sunshine is the best disinfectant. Here is what it says:
We are opposed to the proposed seven mile land grab proposed by New York City to protect its tunnels from the effects of natural gas development and hydraulic fracturing. There is no evidence to support such buffers. Moreover, the practiced impacts of these proposed buffers suggest they are intended not to protect anything but, rather, to allow continued land acquisition on the cheap by wealthy Catskill landowners and special interest organizations such as the Open Space Institute.
We believe these proposed buffers serve no other purpose than advancing the interests of these wealthy individuals, while destroying the rights of landowners who desperately need natural gas development to survive economically. The imposition of these buffers is not justified by the science and will result in the wholesale taking of landowner property values, further impoverishing the area and rendering land less valuable and more vulnerable to purchase by the proponents of the buffers.
We urge you, therefore, to oppose any and all extended buffer proposals by New York City. There is no scientific justification given that the fracturing occurs more than a mile below and, per proposed New York State regulations, a minimum of 1,000 feet horizontally from the tunnels. It is a threadbare excuse for imposing a natural gas ban that will benefit one group of very wealthy individuals at the expense of everyone else. Please call a halt to this land grab.
Can you help us fight the behemoth, New York City? Are you willing to join David in the battle against Goliath? If so, please print off a copy of this petition, circulate it and mail back to me at:
Sandra Davis
199 Old Rt 10, Suite 2
Deposit, NY 13754
Bryant La Tourette
Posted at 23:35h, 25 MarchNY City needs a filter system and it keeps avoiding this. The citizens of NYC deserve better.
If you live in NYC and are reading this, take a second. Go to your sink and draw a class of water. Hold it up, do you see those tiny particles swirling around? No need to panic because most of it is dead. Your water is bleached/chlorine “treated” not filtered. In order to enjoy your water you need some history. Way back when prior to 1970 “EPA” twenty three villages were flooded. Relax they burned the buildings and moved most of the 100 cemeteries headstones. It is just ashes in the muck at the bottom now. Have you ever driven around the reservoirs in the spring or fall?
It is beautiful thousands of geese cover the water the noise is so loud. Your glass of water is like a sea shell instead of hearing the ocean you can hear the faint sound of tens of thousands of geese. Now if your local park has geese you know what a mess they make. Again relax it parts per billion. But just the thought of drinking pond water turns me off. You see we have ponds on our massive acreage however we are a little more refined up here. We wouldn’t think of running a hose from our back yard pond/reservoir to our sink. Would you run a hose from the pond in central park to your house? Well that is what they are doing for you only larger scale.
We are not fans of being treated like NYC stem cells. You just can’t keep taking. You need to stand up and ask for filtered water! Your children deserve clean filtered water. That is the least they can do with your water catch basins. Think about everything that flows into those catch basins… man it sends chills up my back thinking about it. NYC may be proud of having unfiltered water but that sound like a sales pitch for we can’t afford a filter system.
Brian
Posted at 09:31h, 26 MarchNow you’re going after NYC?
Spitting into a hurricane Bry.
Good luck! 🙂
Tom
Posted at 13:17h, 26 MarchNo sure what to make of your comment!
Bryant La Tourette
Posted at 15:52h, 26 MarchBrian,
No going after NYC would be spitting into a hurricane of tugging on Superman’s cape even as bad as pulling the mask of the Lone Ranger!
I think it is unreasonable to take more land when the real problem is putting in an over due filter system in today’s world of terrorism.
Victor Furman
Posted at 14:56h, 26 MarchI do Tom. Basically, what he is saying is NYC is better then the rest of the state and as far as NYC is concerened anybody living outside it’s borders is just a servant to the city’s needs on the outside looking in.
Kilgour Farms
Posted at 18:31h, 26 MarchSerfdom!!!
Bill
Posted at 18:26h, 27 MarchTo Sandra and all the property owners in the DRBC I say stop thinking about your pockets and look into the future of the impact this will and could have on you…..coming from a person who also thought about the prosperity (until I actually saw the reality)
Tom
Posted at 21:03h, 27 MarchThe alternative to prosperity is poverty and that reality isn’t pretty. It’s devastating in fact and destroys a community’s health, its environment and its future.
Kilgour Farms
Posted at 10:06h, 28 MarchWhat Bill obviously doesn’t realise is that these areas are already in poverty and with NYC at the helm I see no change for the future of these towns.
To NYC stop thinking about our pockets and build a filtration system, you will have to within the next ten years even without development.
Bill
Posted at 01:43h, 28 MarchTom…. and Nat gas drilling is not destroying our health ,environment and future?I lived in NEPA for 29 years ,raised my children here and even though I didn’t get rich ,but I managed .Our roads, that all the pro gas people say are being fixed by the gas companies also managed to be OK.If the gas companies didn’t ruin our roads they wouldn’t need to to fixed!The area of NEPA will never remain an agricultural one and will completely be changed forever and we will lose what some of us appreciate most .To bad that greed seems to out weigh quality of life unfortunately !
Tom
Posted at 06:30h, 28 MarchI see a lot of farms being saved by gas, Bill, including several in my home area where sign-up bonuses made it possible to buy new equipment, build new barns, etc. What are you talking about?
Bryant La Tourette
Posted at 19:28h, 28 MarchBill ,
You say “raised children” I take it they have left the nest? If so do they live close by?
Victo Furman
Posted at 23:05h, 28 March64 days and counting