Natural Gas Temper Tantrums – The Show Goes On
As many of you know, today was the quarterly business meeting of the Susquehanna River Basin Commission (SRBC). If you have been following our blog or the tweets we sent from the meeting this morning, you are probably also aware Energy Action Network/Occupy Well Street organizer, Alex Lotorto, was hard at work the past couple of weeks attempting to organize a disruption to halt today’s vote on water withdrawal applications. It was a bust, a total bust, but one that demonstrated the immature and desperate nature of the anti-natural gas movement. There’s little moving at all from what we saw, except perhaps the mouths of the loudest protestors, who were very few in number.
A Quiet Beginning
This action was the second temper tantrum like uprising that occurred at the December quarterly meeting. Because of the disruption that ensued, SRBC Commissioners agreed to extend public comment on those withdrawal applications to be re-evaluated today. An explanation of this can be seen in the following clip.
Protesters sat quietly through the opening agenda items as commissioners voted on new proposals and partial fee waivers. They even quietly listened to the above explanation. Yet, when the commissioners began to vote on whether or not to re-evaluate December’s applications, the handful of protesters (and I mean handful) decided to take matters into their own hands.
Should We Call The Police or Their Parents?
Mike Knapp, President of Knapp Acquisitions and Productions very eloquently commented on yesterday’s post, “Disruption is a tool of a desperate person whose narrative has failed to gain traction, ‘disruption’ being what we call it when adults do it, ‘temper tantrum’ when it’s a child.” Well, Mike, there were eight people in Harrisburg today that left me wondering whether I was in a hearing room in our state capitol or in my grandmother’s daycare center.
There was Alex Lotorto, of course, who did stand up prepared to be arrested — a point we pondered yesterday.
Bill Huston was there with camera in hand, since Alex declared filming an important role for the participating activists. You have to wonder with Mr. Huston’s severe opposition to fossil fuels, how he made the trip from Binghamton to Harrisburg?
We noticed a few select individuals we’ve seen at each of the SRBC hearings and business meetings since December.
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Business As Usual
Throughout this childish behavior, the SRBC Commissioners continued their meeting and voted on the applications before them. From December’s meeting, they re-approved 24 applications, re-denied one and moved the table application to the March vote as had been previously decided. For the actual vote today, 24 applications were approved, two were denied, and two were tabled. At the end of the vote, when the meeting was adjourned, the 8 standing protesters were joined by 6 or 7 individuals and they all marched out of the room together. You can see that below.
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Press Conference
Outside, the 15 or so protesters held a press conference. Here’s some photos of the “event” for posterity…and for rebuttal of those inflated numbers we know we’ll see. Read on afterward for some more insights. But, look at this crowd, will you? It appears tantrums don’t attract a lot of followers.
What’s Next
At today’s meeting, the behavior was in direct violation of the new SRBC meeting rules, which were extensively reviewed at the beginning of the meeting. The rules clearly state:
Disruptive behavior that interferes with the orderly conduct of the public meeting will not be tolerated. Disruptive behavior intended to threaten or intimidate an SRBC official or other members of the attending public will not be tolerated. Persons engaging in such disruptive or threatening behavior will be removed from the meeting room.
Because Capitol Police were the security for this event; being removed also meant those persons would have been immediately placed under arrest. The SRBC apparently didn’t want to create a scene with arrests and, therefore, ignored the 8 individuals and continued to conduct the meeting. One hopes this won’t be a pattern, as the SRBC should take into account and respect the reasons others attend the meetings (i.e. to hear the decisions). Ignoring the mandated rules of the meeting only enables future violations. Why even have rules if they are not to be followed?
Further, this inaction invites continued immature behavior. These protesters did not accomplish their goals to halt the vote, nor did their shouting result in the media frenzy being arrested would have produced. As the opposition to natural gas development grows more desperate in their actions, we have to ask: What will they do next time to get the SRBC’s attention?
Is it time everyone just grew up?
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tim kay
Posted at 20:01h, 15 Marchloved the article, but the third video isnt playing for me, comes up as private? hope its just a simple mistake, i would love to come back later and get to view it.
keep up the great work, i love reading your stories.
Tom
Posted at 22:40h, 15 MarchI think it’s now corrected. Thank you!
Victor Furman
Posted at 21:58h, 15 MarchIt’s funny, but my recollection is that a lot of people like Alex who make pledge’s to protect the river, etc. have often been the same type as those who ran to Canada in times of war, when I was young.
Jennifer Young
Posted at 01:14h, 16 MarchFunny Victor, I seem to recall a certain meeting in Deposit, Living the drill, was it, where you were extremely disruptive. Tom I am ashamed of your endorsement of this veteran while at the same time you belittled my own assertion of patriotism, based on my dads 2 tours in Vietnam. Its true I did not serve, but my dad did and so did my sister,my aunt a lieutenant commander in the navy, my great uncle was general Patton’s right hand in ww2,many aunts uncles and cousins in service, and yet somehow we are all anti frack…I don’t know why I bother, you obviously don’t moderate posts containing facts you’d prefer your readership not to know…but I persist knowing you will read this at least…see you in the local papers!
Tom
Posted at 07:09h, 16 MarchI am pleased to call Vic my friend and truly honor your family’s service to our great nation as well. Let there be no doubt about that. Let me also say I have never seen a display by gas advocates that came close to the nature of what antis did at the previous SRBC meeting.
Victor Furman
Posted at 23:07h, 18 MarchAs a Vet I too appreciate the service of your family… That being said I do not believe that a public meeting should go unchallenged when it is being presented as educational and is full of mis-information, and unsubstantiated facts. What bothers me more is this… when a person stands in front of a crowd and prays to mother earth for protections from drillers, especially when they get to the meeting in fossil fueled transportation. The second thing that bothers me perhaps as much as the first is when a person (or two) stand up in front of a group of people and start their meeting by saying ” I am not against drilling for gas” and then spend the next 2 hours bashing the industry for everything from unfounded water pollution to 3 eyed goats and miscarriages too meth use and causing local pregnant farm daughters.
PaRoughneck
Posted at 11:37h, 16 March“I PLEDGE TO PROTECT THE SUSQUEHANNA”- what a bunch of BS. Worried about a fraction of a percent of water being withdrawn and keeping the water clean, but certainly no protesting at the Binghamton sewage treatment plant where a quarter million gallons a day of ‘partially’ treated municipal waste is dumped on Broome Countie’s millions of downstream neighbors.
What about that Alex? How about you Bill H? In your efforts to ‘protect’ the river, why isn’t the the mass dumping of stuff into it, by one of the largest cities along it, a concern of yours?
Sherry
Posted at 15:17h, 17 MarchBill H(uston) is too busy to answer your question because of his wasting lots of the fossil fuel he hates to get back and forth from his home in Binghamton NY to Pennsylvania locations like Dimock and Harrisburg to film activities that he thinks support his cause of ending fossil fuel usage.
Tom
Posted at 15:28h, 17 MarchHah! I think you are correct!
Victor Furman
Posted at 21:58h, 17 MarchBill Houston along with hundreds of anti extremist must be Feeling the Pain !!!
With the EPA report coming out this week declaring “DIMOCKS WATER CLEAN” http://www.pressconnects.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2012203150426
the anti’s who just two years ago shouted the DEP was in the pockets of Cabot
(the company that has been dealing with the falsehoods of an anti drill campaign)
are now shouting the same about the EPA who up until this announcement was made
was the all telling source and final word that would prove the anti claims of water pollution to the world. There is no water contamination due to HVHF.
If anything could bring them down off cloud 9 from the Dryden, Middlefield court decisions it was this. NO LONGER able to make the Dimock Claim of poisoned wells trans-gendered babies and blistering showers, the steam has been let out of there strongest point. The lies one by one are being dismantled and this one was done at their beckoning. I remember well the Saunters Cry at the Binghamton EPA hearings… “Come test my water see for yourself” hollered Craig Saunter to the hearing board. It made headlines, brought in activist to the cause like Mark Ruffalo & Joshing Fox. They came – they tested – and the wells were alright Ruffalo just like the kids
Four years NYRAD, VeRSE, The River Keepers, and other anti groups have been responsible for slandering an Industry and turning a public that was too apathetic to research the truth for themselves into believing the lies.
THERE NUMBERS ARE DWINDLING!
The proof was evident of this back in September 25th of last year when a well advertised “Walk for Clean Water” with flyers and radio adds produced only 4-5 PA residents and 10 NYRAD extremist from Binghamton NY, and one very disappointed resident of NYC who told me he was expecting hundreds to be there after driving all the way from NYC.
Further proof of the dwindling numbers came again when another event well advertised on local radio and newspaper spots for the “Natalie Merchant Concert” barely paid for the venue as the seats were less then half sold out. I wonder did Bill Houston holler to the audience like so many times before “Everybody move to the front so we look like were larger then we are?”
Yet again when Alex Latorto and Bill Houston went to the SRBC hearings in Harrisburg PA just a week ago there were only 8 protestors. had it not been for the Occupy Wall Street crowds and the rally call by Joshing Fox none of their events would have had a crowd except the one they had with free beer at the Omega Brewery in Cooperstown NY awhile ago.
Yes their numbers are faltering as are their facts. It is time to put the mis-information campaign on the trail of another cause other then natural gas. maybe save the Tuna, the Whales, the Dolphins Truth and Science have again trumped fear and emotions and this bloger believes that permitting in NY will start late this summer or fall and that the first drill bit will break dirt in Broome County by early spring of 2013.
It’s late…. and after 4 long years of fighting the lies and desperation of an emotionally challenged anti drill zealots, I am going to lay down and dream tonight of tomorrow’s reality. “Drilling is coming to NY” and if what they say is true that a landowner can name a well site pad, Then I hope the first well in NY is named
“NYRAD # 1” the meaning “NY Residents Are Developing” their own resources.
Tom
Posted at 05:35h, 18 MarchVic,
There’s a lot of wisdom in this piece. I believe you have it correct. The public is tiring of the antics, the twisting go the truth and the utter failure and seeming inability of the antis to sit down and discuss things rationally. Their strategy is always to demagogue the issue, rather than discuss it. Their motive is never anything less than to stop things. It is never to improve them. Reasonable people are so tired of this strategy. They are ready to move on and get it done. Meanwhile, the antis will continue making noise from their gas-heated homes and go places with their fossil fueled vehicles to protest. They never, ever grow up!
Alex Lotorto
Posted at 20:22h, 18 MarchThe only comment I have is this article: http://sungazette.com/page/content.detail/id/575944/32-unit-village-no-more.html?nav=5011#.T2XV9qotxWY.facebook
Tom
Posted at 05:02h, 19 MarchFair enough. However, are you saying the owner of the park doesn’t own it, that his rights of contract with the renters mean nothing? Do renters have special rights to occupy a rented property forever even when another renter is willing to pay more economic rent for the property in question, provided they have been given proper notice and all the rights due them under their contract have been observed. Are you saying those families’ lives haven’t been improved by the general improvement in economic conditions in that area? Their job opportunities have unquestionably improved. Do you know whether this was a floodplain or not? These are all relevant questions and one should not be lured into the demagoguery of painting this as a class war.
Victor furman
Posted at 10:34h, 19 MarchAlex I am glad you provide the heart felt story of hardships created by being evicted from a trailor park. it brought back memories of my mothers best friend who was forced to move from her home so route 7 could be turned into 88 and the many stories in the papers about families uprooted then. It also brought back memories of the upper prospect street homes that where home to many of my junior high school friends who were forced to move as their stick built homes were torn down to make room for the 17 – 81 junction. During this debate on Natural Gas I have met a woman in her eighties who was the first female police officer in NYS. She was a resident of Cannonsville remember that little Stick Built Town…? Her family was forced out and had to take the dead from the local cemetary with them so that NYC could flood the alley and get clean water because they ruined their own Hudson River. All throughout history people have been displaced for one reason or another and as you grow up and get older you will remember this ” Gas companies are not the only ones that displace people for profitt. My own Grandmothers home was torn down to make room for casino parking in Alantic City. Mobile homes are mobile and I don’t believe it cost 12,000.00 to move one as the going fee around here is 2500.00 for pickup and transport and after 100 miles a milage fee is added. Set up is addidional but only a few hundred dollars