Marcellus Shale

Ernst to God, “Canada’s Lying!”

Last week I attended a presentation in Ithaca, New York, Tompkins County. The Unitarian Church in Ithaca hosted Jessica Ernst of Alberta, Canada to come in and speak to the public on her experience with the natural gas industry in Canada. Tony Ingraffea also spoke briefly, introducing Ernst.  It proved to be quite a revealing experience and offers some real insight into the rise and fall of the anti-natural gas movement.Setting the tone, the woman introducing both Ingraffea and Ernst asked the audience for donations to pay for their travel expenses imploring everyone to contribute by suggesting the largest donation each member could make the better. She then threw in a plug for wind energy and Ingraffea took over from there.

Tony Ingraffea Gives His 2¢ (About What It Was Worth)

Yes, you heard it correctly, right from Tony Ingraffea’s mouth: “Dish, Texas – Dryden, New York – Dimock, Pennsylvania!” Ingraffea asked the audience what these have in common. One audience member mentioned contamination, and away he went, which just proves how much the audience really knew about natural gas exploration. Dryden, New York has never seen a horizontal natural gas well and has actually put a natural gas ban in place, which is now a subject of litigation at the New York State Appellate Division.

He never got into any detail, other than to say these people shouldn’t back down from their stand on natural gas, in a transparent attempt to fire up the crowd. He described what natural gas exploration means to him and then just touched on what Ernst was going to cover in her presentation.  All in all it was a bit like a high school pep rally for the main event to follow.

Lawsuits Help Activists Go the Distance

Let’s begin with the background. Ernst is from Canada, Rosebud to be exact. In Canada, individual home owners do not own their mineral rights, the Canadian government does. This is where it all gets confusing! Ernst is suing EnCana (a gas company), the Alberta Canadian government, and the energy regulator. You can view Ernst’s presentation below.

Jessica Ernst

While Ernst’s presentation is a little difficult to follow, the main concept was her complete lack of trust in anyone at at all. She asserts, without evidence, her water well was contaminated by natural gas exploration in shallow coal bed methane formations.  However, it was high volume horizontal hydraulic fracturing in the Marcellus Shale, that was, supposedly, the subject being discussed and which attracted the crowd. The relevance of coal bed methane development to New York’s discussion on permitting of Marcellus Shale wells escaped me. Especially considering we don’t have any coal bed methane deposits in our state. But, I digress.

Strangely, Ernst noted the government had suggested she had access to records and potentially could have manipulated them as she pleased, especially given that she worked in the oil and gas field for decades.  Whether this is true or not, and I have no idea, it must take a lot for a government to suggest something of this magnitude and it was puzzling to hear Ernst herself discuss it.  Apparently, after the government, and EnCana, worked with her on several occasions, they actually banished Ernst because she was so difficult.  It was all so unusual and made me wonder how much more there must be to this woman’s story.

Several of her slides were far too small to even read and she skipped through many during her presentation. She stated several times the regulations in Alberta were beyond the best in the world. She said over 50 delegations from across the globe have visited Alberta to learn how the Energy Research Conservation Board regulates the industry.  Listening to her it’s nearly impossible to say the ERCB is incompetent, yet that’s what she later implies. Given the implied claim, let’s detour quickly and take a look at some quick facts and figures regarding recent compliance in Alberta!

2010 Compliance Statistics
Inspections and audits: 18,575
Compliance rate: 98.6% (a record high number)
Number of operations shut down: 62

Now that you’ve watched her presentation and checked out the numbers above, click here to see what the ERCB had to say about Rosebud, Alberta, Canada. It’s a very interesting study if you have a few moments to read through it, especially its conclusions. Here is the overall conclusion:

The Alberta Research Council’s overall of the evidence from the reviews of the AENV and AEUB files, along with a new review and evaluation of additional data and aspects, is that the energy development projects in the areas most likely have not adversely affected the complainant water wells.

Hmm…  There seems to be a disconnect in what Ernst alleges.

She also implied people in America would never see a penny from the natural gas industry. Clearly, she has her facts on this wrong as well!  See any number of our blog posts for the rebuttal on that absurd claim, including here, here and here.

Most of her extremely long presentation was focused on her opinions, as she targeted EnCana, but her  presentation implied it all could happen anywhere to anyone, like someone claiming to have been abducted by aliens and screaming “they could come after you, too.”  EnCana responded to Ernst which is summarized in this article. Here’s an excerpt from the statement with the Alberta Research Council (ARC)’s findings on the situation in Rosebud (emphasis added).

In response to public concern from individuals in the Rosebud area, Alberta Environment retained the Alberta Research Council (ARC), now Alberta Innovates, to complete a groundwater investigation. Encana co-operated fully with both Alberta Environment and ARC and provided them with all available information. When the investigation was completed in January 2008, Alberta Environment released a report showing the water wells were not affected by CBM development. Rather, the quality issues were predominantly due to naturally occurring methane, poor water well construction and maintenance issues.

Now, it was, indeed, starting to sound a little more like Dimock, so maybe Tony Ingraffea was correct – these false accusations pop up everywhere only to be found groundless later when science catches up to to the baseless claims of natural gas critics.  Natural gas exploration is happening all over the United States and there is still not a single proven case of hydraulic fracturing polluting a water supply, as we have pointed out numerous times.  But, hey, do facts matter.  Not if your Jessica Ernst.

Question and Can’t Answer Session

The final part of this meeting was the question and answer section. It was apparent the entire audience, which was packed full of anti-natural gas activists, was disappointed in the answers Ernst gave to their questions.

One audience member asked Ernst how many people were getting sick and dying from the water in Alberta,  yes that’s right dying.  Turns out this was a very typical question from this crowd. Ernst answered there hadn’t been any reports yet because it had only been one decade.  Ernst is, essentially, saying “just wait a little longer, the problem is right over the next hill.” The crowd in the back seat wasn’t impressed.

It was fairly obvious the crowd was upset with the answer.  Ernst was asked if she had seen any disease spring up from contamination there.  Astonishingly, she mentioned Multiple Sclerosis (MS) and Crohn’s Disease.  MS is described as follows:

“Multiple sclerosis (MS) affects women more than men. The disorder is most commonly diagnosed between ages 20 and 40, but can be seen at any age. MS is caused by damage to the myelin sheath, the protective covering that surrounds nerve cells. When this nerve covering is damaged, nerve signals slow down or stop.

The nerve damage is caused by inflammation. Inflammation occurs when the body’s own immune cells attack the nervous system. This can occur along any area of the brain, optic nerve, and spinal cord. It is unknown what exactly causes this to happen. The most common thought is that a virus or gene defect, or both, are to blame. Environmental factors may play a role. You are slightly more likely to get this condition if you have a family history of MS or live in an part of the world where MS is more common.”

While this description mentions environmental factors may play a role, the context is to suggest there are certain parts of the world where this is more common.  There is no implication natural gas exploration has anything whatsoever to do with the disease.

As for Crohn’s Disease:

“The exact cause of Crohn’s disease is unknown. It is an autoimmune disorder. An autoimmune disorder is a condition that occurs when your body’s immune system mistakenly attacks and destroys healthy body tissue.”

You can view the whole question and answer segment below.

It’s difficult to find words to ascribe to Ernst’s suggestion natural gas development could cause these serious diseases, about which the the world’s scientists say they can’t determine the cause. “Shameless” doesn’t seem to be adequate in this instance.  She claims Canada lies, Encana lies and everyone else but her lies and yet spews the most ridiculous statements imaginable.  There’s something wrong, very wrong, in this woman’s presentation.

Ernst seemed extremely unorganized and even paranoid.  That’s a strong assertion, I know, but I was there. I know what I saw and when a person stoops to blaming MS on natural gas because there’s no proof of anything else, well, let’s just say the proof is in the pudding.  The question and answer segment proved to be very frustrating to our anti-natural gas friends when they didn’t receive the answers they wanted to hear. It yielded a complete unraveling of the Ernst narrative and I suspect no one is going to rely upon her as a credible source, at least no one who doesn’t claim to have been abducted by aliens.

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17 Comments
  • julie
    Posted at 11:16h, 26 May Reply

    LOL…yous are hurting! Total ban in New York! Ban Drilling/Fracking Now in NY… ban it everwhere! I know we for one won’t stop till it’s ban everywhere!

    • Tom Shepstone
      Posted at 11:30h, 26 May Reply

      Have at it, but the evidence is running against you Julie. Isn’t it time to work together?

    • Vic
      Posted at 11:42h, 26 May Reply

      Well Julie…. I guess you will be pretty busy

  • poss.
    Posted at 11:18h, 26 May Reply

    Ban Drilling/Fracking Now!

    • Vic
      Posted at 11:43h, 26 May Reply

      Hey Poss… I get it. They can all start ….get of the grid… park their cars, turn out your lights, don’t use their propane grills and quit buying products made of plastic and that come in plastic

    • Tom Shepstone
      Posted at 14:13h, 26 May Reply

      Hah! I trust everyone will know you’re being sarcastic but if they don’t, too bad!

  • Vic
    Posted at 11:40h, 26 May Reply

    futher proof that some things ferment

  • Annie
    Posted at 00:37h, 27 May Reply

    “Tony Ingraffea Gives His 2¢ (About What It Was Worth)”

    “While Ernst’s presentation is a little difficult to follow, the main concept was her complete lack of trust in anyone at at all.”

    “Most of her extremely long presentation was focused on her opinions, as she targeted EnCana, but her presentation implied it all could happen anywhere to anyone, like someone claiming to have been abducted by aliens and screaming ‘they could come after you, too.’

    “She claims Canada lies, Encana lies and everyone else but her lies and yet spews the most ridiculous statements imaginable. There’s something wrong, very wrong, in this woman’s presentation.”

    “Ernst seemed extremely unorganized and even paranoid.”

    “But, hey, do facts matter. Not if your Jessica Ernst.

    “It yielded a complete unraveling of the Ernst narrative and I suspect no one is going to rely upon her as a credible source, at least no one who doesn’t claim to have been abducted by aliens.”

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    Nothing screams “I got nothin'” like a personal attack on someone. Nice.

    Rachael, did you actually call the ERCB for their information? Which number did you dial? Did someone answer? I’m just curious because I don’t think it’s fair if they’re answering the phone for a blogger and not a concerned farmer looking for help after encountering a frac blowout spewing 30 feet in the air with the frac crew oblivious, laying on their fracs a km away. (That was a deep horizontal well by the way, seems to be a communication trend happening these days in Alberta and BC).

    http://www.albertasurfacerights.com/articles/?id=1534

    Did you call Alberta Innovates – Technology Futures (formerly Alberta Research Council – ARC)? It appears they kind of withheld some important information and have recently been ordered to release it. Why do you suppose an accredited lab would risk losing their accreditation and withhold information that might implicate their funders? Well, here’s what their spokesman said: “We thought we were doing the right thing by not supplying the information,”.

    http://www.calgaryherald.com/technology/Ruling+advances+woman+tainted+water+lawsuit/6475560/story.html#ixzz1sPaXh7uV

    Sort of eerily similar to that is the lawsuit recently launched in PA where critical information was withheld. Now why would a company withhold important water testing data that might be used to incriminate them? It looks like in the US AND Canada, hide-and-seek is an industry favorite, well, hide for sure, seek … probably not so much.

    http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/local/marcellusshale/washington-county-families-sue-over-fracking-water-testing-637631/?p=0

    I believe the purpose of Ms. Ernst’s presentations are to help people connect the dots. It doesn’t matter what kind of drilling and fracking they’re doing, when they muck it up, the results, consequences and hiding of information appear to be the same, wherever you live.

    “It was all so unusual and made me wonder how much more there must be to this woman’s story.”

    There is much more, but judging by the frantic tone of this post, it might be wise to let things simmer a bit before you go blogging about it again. In my opinion, too much emotion from people who might be getting paid to attack others on a personal level is unattractive.

    And Rachael, please don’t be too judgemental about donations for people who have had their lives destroyed. That may be you, or your kids, they pass the hat around for someday.

    • Tom Shepstone
      Posted at 18:11h, 27 May Reply

      I notice you do not address the ludicrous allegation by Ms. Ernst that natural gas development causes MS. You also seem to ignore publicly available information such as the following:

      http://environment.gov.ab.ca/info/library/8136.pdf

      Here are some key excerpts:

      “Energy wells in the vicinity (within 1.5 km) of the complainant water wells have no apparent drilling and construction issues that would contribute to methane or degradation of water quality.”

      “Records indicate that all complainant wells were drilled using mud rotary rigs. In all cases, bentonite and/or cuttings were poured down the hole (annulus) beside the casing. This sealing method is not preferred because there is no way to ensure a proper seal the entire length of the annulus. In the Rosebud area, fine sand or gravel in all the boreholes (between five and 11 metres) could have lead to bentonite bridging (sticking caused by water swelling the bentonite). It is not clear if the existing seals provide adequate protection against contamination from surface water entering the well. Several water analyses (discussed below) did indicate coliform bacteria were present and this could indicate a poor seal in the upper part of the wells.”

      “The bacterial/microbial problems are likely due to surface water entering the well. The source of contamination is likely quite close, rather than from other sources, such as surface water used for drilling energy wells (these organisms do not typically survive long in a groundwater environment).”

      “Three of the four complainants had iron and sulphate related bacteria in their water wells. These bacteria naturally exist underground in aquifers and can sometimes cause taste, odour, staining and water production issues when wells are not properly maintained (e.g. shock chlorinated)”

      “The major ion chemistry of the complainant water wells has not changed from prior to the complaint.”

      “The analyses show the complainant well water consistently exceeds the aesthetic objectives under the Guidelines for Canadian Drinking Water Quality for total dissolved solids (TDS) and sodium. The maximum acceptable concentrations for fluoride have sometimes been exceeded. This water chemistry is typical of water wells in these areas. All complainant wells have maximum concentrations within health related limits under the Guidelines for Canadian Drinking Water Quality (Health Canada 2007) with the exception of fluoride and coliform bacteria as noted above.”

      “An analysis for USEPA volatile and extractable priority pollutants are available for three of the four complainant wells. All volatile and extractable organic compounds were below the analytical detection limit with the exception of two compounds not expected to be related to CBM activities. These compounds, 2-Methyl-2-Propanol (an alcohol) and phthalates (plasticizers) were detected at very low concentrations and may have come from the cleaning of AENV sampling equipment prior to sampling the well and from new sample tubing respectively. BTEX and F1-F4 analyses were low or below detection limit. No Canadian Drinking Water Guideline limits were exceeded for USEPA priority pollutants or CCME hydrocarbons.”

      “The methane carbon isotope (δ13C) values for the complaint wells fall within the normal range of methane values for all D35 wells in the area (Figure 4). In other words, the complainants’ wells had isotope fingerprints similar to other wells in the area.”

      “The complainant water well data all have δ13C methane values that are clearly biogenic (δ13C values more negative that -60 ‰ PDB). This means the methane likely formed from bacteria at a shallow depth.”

      “The Alberta Research Council’s overall conclusion of the evidence from the reviews of the AENV and AEUB files, along with a new review and evaluation of additional data and aspects, is that energy development projects in the areas most likely have not adversely affected the complainant water wells.”

      Nothing personal, Annie, but these are the facts. Ms. Ernst just won’t face them and resorting to blaming of MS on natural gas suggests she’s the one who is frantic, not Rachael.

      • annie
        Posted at 00:30h, 30 May Reply

        “The final part of this meeting was the question and answer section. It was apparent the entire audience, which was packed full of anti-natural gas activists, was disappointed in the answers Ernst gave to their questions.

        One audience member asked Ernst how many people were getting sick and dying from the water in Alberta, yes that’s right dying. Turns out this was a very typical question from this crowd. Ernst answered there hadn’t been any reports yet because it had only been one decade. Ernst is, essentially, saying “just wait a little longer, the problem is right over the next hill.” The crowd in the back seat wasn’t impressed.

        It was fairly obvious the crowd was upset with the answer. Ernst was asked if she had seen any disease spring up from contamination there. Astonishingly, she mentioned Multiple Sclerosis (MS) and Crohn’s Disease.”

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        Tom and Rachael,

        This is from the Q and A video:

        Audience member – “Are people around your neighborhood getting sick?”

        Ms. Ernst – “There have been, we have a lot of MS in the community, Crohn’s disease, headaches, some of the skin problems. Getting sick? It’s too soon, it’s only been a decade.”

        Did eidmarcellus edit this tape? Nowhere can I find the dialogue as it’s been so disingenuously written by Rachael.

        Where did anyone say, getting sick and dying from the water? Rachael, as you emphasize with, “yes that’s right dying”, could you please share with people at what time in the video this is stated?

        Where did Ms. Ernst answer “there hadn’t been any reports yet”?

        Where is it apparent the “entire audience” was upset?

        Where does Ms. Ernst say “natural gas development causes MS”?

        Tom, after watching the Q and A video, it’s blatantly obvious Ms. Ernst made no such “ludicrous allegations” as alleged by yourself and Rachael. In fact, it is clear from the video she was simply responding to a question based on her own experience and familiarity with the citizens in her small community, so thank you for posting the videos so people can see and hear for themselves.

        As well, thank you for posting a portion of the publically available information from the ARC report. Do you happen to have any of their publically unavailable information on hand? The devil is in the details, and as I pointed out in my previous comment, industry seems to like to hide them.

        “…. energy development projects in the areas most likely have not adversely affected the complainant water wells.”

        Most likely have not? That doesn’t sound very definitive, but maybe they’re not a hundred percent sure.

        “Nothing personal, Annie, but these are the facts.”

        Not quite Tom, there’s more.

        Dr. Karlis Muehlenbachs, one of the world’s leading experts in fingerprinting industry’s leaking gases, had this to say about those “facts” and the ones unaccounted for and disregarded in the report:

        “In summary, given the unqualified nature of the D35 well database, the disregard of diagnostic ethane isotope ratios and the lack of coal gas isotope data, we find the overall conclusion of Dr. Blyth’s report “An independent review of coalbed methane related water well complaints filed with Alberta Environment” January 16, 2008, to be premature.”

        http://www.ernstversusencana.ca/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/2008-03-19-Media-Alert.pdf

        http://thetyee.ca/News/2011/12/19/Fracking-Contamination/

        As my grandmother used to say, lawsuits, foip requests, federal investigations, peer-reviewed reports, industry studies, regulator studies, doctors, scientists, investors, people speaking out and people trying to get out of non-disclosure agreements or not signing them at all, are all conduits for leaking information … lucky for us industry has never been able to get a good seal.

        • Tom Shepstone
          Posted at 09:43h, 30 May Reply

          Let everyone be their own judge as to what Ernst said. We gave our opinions and you have given yours. You were not there (so far as we know) and Rachael was.

  • Arthur K.
    Posted at 21:27h, 29 May Reply

    We will defeat these boosters of yet another dirty energy source. Water is contaminated on site at every well pad where hydrofracking occurs.

    • Tom Shepstone
      Posted at 22:09h, 29 May Reply

      There is zero evidence of that, Arthur. Care to try another assertion?

  • Arthur K.
    Posted at 22:26h, 29 May Reply

    by what process, Mr. Shepstone, do frackers restore the millions of gallons of fresh water per frack to purity after these are mixed with 100s of chemicals and sand? What is not contaminated and left underground (to eventually find its way who knows where), is returned to the surface with heavy metals and radioactive elements mixed in. Could you tell us where decontamination occurs and by what process?

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